Where do you think is the best place to live?

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I received an excellent question for one of our members of the site. She asked: “Where is the safest place in the US to live based on fault lines, calderas and volcanos and predictions, etc. We are planning on moving soon, as we live right beneath bloody Yellowstone, and we want to have the best chances possible.” Well, I’m not a scientist, but I can give some information from my research (it’s below). I also challenge all of our members and visitors to help with this question!


Elements for Consideration:

1. Glaciers / Polar Cap. First, if there is a pole shift or even just the ice cap glacier begins to extend once more, how far south should you live? Well, called the Farmdale Advance, there was an ice sheet in Ohio. Not only did ice cover just about all of Canada, it reached down in the US to the Missouri and Ohio rivers, and all the way to New York City in the East. Worse yet, can you believe that most of India was covered by an ice sheet?

2. Pole Shift / Earth Crust Displacement (ECD). Charles Hapgood figures that there was an ECD between 12-17,000 years ago and that the earth’s outer shell moved approximately 2,000 miles. He documented three earth crust displacements in the last 100,000 years; in his calculations, the area of movement never covered more than 40 degrees. If anyone out there could do up an animated computer illustration of the potential moves based on this, I would love it!

3. Tidal Surges. With ECDs, you get massive tidal surges across the continents, more than likely the basis for the flood myths. So wherever you live, it needs to be fairly high in altitude. I remember reading that worldwide they found consistent water marks at a certain level, but I can’t find my source. I know a researcher named Vavilov found a direct correlation between agricultural origins and lands more than 4,920 feet above sea level. You also don’t want to be within hundreds of miles of water!

4. Volcanoes. You definitely do not want to be near a volcano, since all the crust activity seems to initiate volcanic activity. Unfortunately, there is the existence of supervolcanos; for example, Yellowstone here in the US. It is believed that the eruption of various supervolcanoes are responsible for several of the past global extinction events. If one goes, it won't matter where you live.

5. Tectonic Plates. You’re going to want to be in a geologically stable area, on a large/flat/subducting plate. Flat plains or plateaus are preferable. You don’t want to be anywhere where mountain building might occur. In all the evidence of ECDs, there are massive changes- both the sinking and rising of continents, islands, and mountains.


Here are some other items to think about:


1. Time. I know a lot of scientists disagree that climate change could happen quickly, as in the move “The Day After Tomorrow”, but there is evidence it can. They have found numerous mammoth across Europe and in Siberia, that died such quick deaths that they still had food in their mouths and their body did not decompose at all. It was as if they were flash frozen. Also interesting, they had such items as buttercups in their mouth, and subtropical plants in their stomach. Obviously, the climate was radically different and changed extremely quickly.

2. Concerns and Preparation. ZetaTalks discusses other concerns on pg of their pamphlet, located at: http://www.zetatalk.com/nonproft/booktoc.pdf

3. Illustration. Also, there is a really neat illustration of the different disaster scenarios at National Geographic; not sure if they account for the 40 degree and 2,000 mile area for the ECD. Here’s the link: http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/channel/ends-of-the-earth-pole-shift-1


Personally


I mostly worry about where glaciers are likely to appear and altitude. I live in northern Colorado, where the altitude is high, there are no volcanoes, is geologically stable, and is not near water. However, based on what I’ve determined regarding glaciers, I would need to be southern Colorado.

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Just joined the site, but I have pondered this question. At one point I lived in Lubbock, TX. I have read in the event of an ice age, this area would become lush; however, each ice age is unique so many factors play a role in determining the best place to live. However, the panhandle of west Texas is the one that consistently shows up in all both "psychic" and/or scientific speculation that it is one place to be in the event of a disaster. I did read an article that mentioned that now southern New Mexico is the best place to live with all potential disasters we face today. BTW: Cheers Kev!

Personally?

I'm right outside Denver, so I'm not much better off...

Ehhh...I don't plan on living through it. Too much work involved. When I was younger? Sure. Now? Not a chance, I'm getting old and I tore my knee and back up---not much call for a cripple---no matter how much astrology and what else I know. And I'm not reincarnating until someone else cleans up the mess!! :)

Interesting question

With a hat-full of potential catastrophic events to contend with, is it possible to avoid all possible scenarios with one location?

Most say go high, as long as it's not a volcano, but what about below?

Most military bunkers, secret bases and likes are deep below. So would it not be wise, to place yourself in a supposed safe location, below surface?

I guess the problem arises if it floods from the high seas, or suffocation from blocked air ways.

One interested thing that seems to stand out from these posts is that around 12-17,000 years ago (the time our full bloom civilizations vanished) an ECD occurred, followed by great floods, large volcanic activity and flash freezing.

The freezing could occur if enough volcanic ash was emitted to blot out the sun. Temperatures would drop significantly and freeze anything solid pretty quick at a certain temperature.

One thing that confuse me was, Why would mammoths be in a sub tropical area? The last Ice age supposedly lasted from 1.6 million years ago until 10,000 years ag0, though some argue we are still in an Ice age.

Perhaps the Mammoths were forced into the Subtropics by the disaster? Higher seas, lava, lost continents.

It's interesting that our search for true history throws up 12,000 years ago regularly. And it shows up in many religious texts.

I've heard that Colorado is

I've heard that Colorado is where the masons are preparing things. It looks like a good place elevation wise in the U.S., but I worry about the displacement theory and which direction and how far the crust would move if this were to happen.

I'm in Florida! If they spot any large body coming into the inner solar system within my lifetime, me and my husband will be picking up and moving to Colorado or wherever we believe the safest spot would be.

I've heard that Colorado is...

Unfortunately, with earth crust displacement, it doesn't seem to matter where you live. Continents are created and also disappear. The only thing you can kinda prepare for is the tidal surges associated with them, and try to live in a high elevation area.

Get out of Florida! That's a horrible place for a multitude of disasters, whether it be regularly occurring natural disasters or a rare global disaster.

Thanks for your input!

Hell or high water

Yes, I have to agree with this. Of course, choosing a"safe place" would depend on the severity of the expected catastrophe. If it was a simple matter of slowly rising sea levels, then moving away from the coast is a great idea. Understandably, people planning for the projected problems arising from the typical view of global warming would want to move to higher ground. For practical purposes, this could make good sense. Preparing for a shift in the earths crust is far more problematical. If we accept that the flash freezing happened to the mammoths quickly enough to preserve the creatures intact as many of them are, we have to realize that the shift and freezing could not have taken more than a week or so, supposing that it was not more or less instantaneous. I wouldn't want to be anywhere on the planet when that happened.

Kevin

Kevin

Kevin, you are absolutely correct. There were mammoth found in Siberia that were flash frozen so quickly that their meat was still good- some of the workers actually ate it. They found buttercups and tropical fauna in the mammoth's stomach, which indicated a very warm tropical climate. That mammoth must have frozen almost instantly.

We've also seen flood water markings all over the world, up to a mile high. We also know the stories of continents either rising and falling, or freezing instantly. If there truly is an ECD, nowhere is safe. I think the best you can do is to find a large stable tectonic plate and find a place really high up. This would increase your chances at least by a little.

Kind of depressing, huh?

Depressing, I know what you

Depressing, I know what you mean but ultimately it's hard to get depressed about something that catastrophic. It goes a little beyond any normal sort of response.

As far as the original post goes, there is not much of the continental shield south of the 49th parallel. There is a bit if you check the maps on the net. Minnesota, North and South Dakota. Canada has a large area of shield. Mostly sparsley populated except for the mosquitos and blackflies.
I think I'll stay put where I am. >:)) The future achaeologists will find me in a strata of beer bottles and pistachio shells, hopefully.

Kev